Episode Transcript
[00:00:02] Speaker A: Greetings, everyone.
This is Moya with How Bette Davis Saved My Life with a new segment for How Bette Davis Saved My Life, life lessons from classic Hollywood called Late to the Party.
As you can hear, the party's already started. And what I mean by Late to the party is recent movies that Georgia and or I have recently seen and you've probably already seen, but we want to talk about it.
So sit back, relax, and enjoy this brand new segment of How Betty Davis Saved My Life. Classic Hollywood Party.
Yes, yes, yes. It's another episode. Thank you all for stopping on by and taking some time with us today.
Just so happy you're here.
And of course, for those of you don't know, Georgia's still on hiatus. A little sabbatical, taking care of some business, some personal business that she.
Personal.
But anyway, so, you know, we do Late to the Party. And again, I'm so glad you guys are here.
I just want to start off by giving a special shout out to our audio listeners and our new subscribers, especially on YouTube. Thank you guys so much for all that you do. We really appreciate it. And so without further ado, can we get this party started? I'm not sure why my color is off, but show must go on, right?
You know, usually our color is our, is our yellow color. And so I'm not sure why that's off, but we'll, we'll figure that out. But don't forget, you can also comment whilst we have this going on here. We love to hear from you. We always appreciate that you are a classic movie lover just like we are. So, yeah, I got away from the music and it's just us. I didn't want any distractions, but I just want to start off by.
I, I could start either way, but you know, the Met Gala 2025 just happened this past week or something.
And for those of you.
Look, I. I used to be really, really, really into fashion. I still appreciate fashion. Shout out to Norman B.
And the Ultimate Fashion History and all the other great classic movie fashion channels and classic movie channels, period.
We keep these movies and these stars alive.
But let's see, can I get this going?
Yeah, there we go.
I'm not into this kind of stuff like I used to, but this was such a. The Met Gala.
And I'm sorry if you all don't know what I'm talking about.
Let's see. I will click on one of them just for reference, the theme. Well, it might not. Let me do this.
Yeah, no, because, well, you can kind of see it Here. So the theme was a black dandyism or black tailoring. Okay.
And it was kind of all over the place. You can click on. I mean, wow. This was not. Cultural appropriation is beyond me. But again, that's just me.
There was a lot of fashion faux pas. I'll just say this enough to go around. Let's see. Well, that's Instagram. That's Rihanna.
See, you can see it here.
This was crazy, y' all. It was. I like. I'm like Mardi Gras passed and Holly too early for Halloween. It was. It was something to see.
I was. Can I see this?
Rihanna on Billboard, man. It was some. Some madness. That's all I gotta say. It was. It was crazy.
Rhinna's preggers again.
So this. This chick. I don't know, it's doi. Whatever it is, they pumping her. Okay, Y' all get it. The Regency area era.
Bo Brummel, dandism. And now something. I had no idea. Black dandyism, Megan Kelly and other people. Apparently there's this book and they talked about what is black Danism? And if you feel like hearing a word salad. If you feel like. You know, feel like.
I'm sorry, I totally messed that up. If you. Yeah, let me go down. I'm sorry, guys.
I'm just still. Can't. I. I can't. I'm hitting the wrong buttons because I can't get over these fashion. It's. It was dandy or dandyism and she's got LV on. And you know that controversy is a really.
So that kind of stuff. And let's see. And I was trying to show Rihanna, but those of us who are. Who love the classic movies, we know what a dandy is, right? Because we. We look at. You look at period pieces, even if you don't look at period pieces.
And maybe look at his historic pieces movies, which of course could be in periods.
You know, you might have some idea what a dandy is, but I just want to give you for reference and let me get this off of here.
And like I said, I'm not. I'm not gonna click on too many of those pictures because G. Monette. All right, It's. It's a wild scene, man. That's all I gotta say was a wild scene. But I want to click on what I've watched recently to get back to movies. I watched a series on YouTube and it was called Disraeli Portrait of a Romantic. And it was. It was a four part series and it was from the 70s let me.
And this, it's free on YouTube and I'll put everything, the links in the, in the chat and let's make this bigger.
All right?
And this rally. Now again, I just told you, like I said, why does not cultural appropriation is beyond me. But I just told this, this, this, this style was invented in the Regency period, you know, with George iii, when George ii, the king. We all know the madness of King George and all that. If you don't know, go look it up, you know, great movie by the way as well. But anyway, he had to take over and, and this between that period and then when his brother, I think William. Don't ask me which one he was, he came. So it's the period between George III and Victoria getting on the throne. Okay, so that's the time frame you're looking at. But anyway, Disraeli, now I had kind of saw something else about him, another great series. It wasn't, it might have been strictly about all the, the prime ministers of England. I don't remember. But I saw something about him a while ago and I had. And so if you look up Disraeli, you're always going to see he almost look like Abraham Lincoln.
He always has black on guy. He's always going to a funeral. Either he's the funeral director or he's gonna be in a, in a box next.
Very stoic looking, not a very handsome man. Okay. But anyway, this, this was a four part series about him. And I had no idea.
Let me see. I don't want that beauty.
Let me put it back here. I had no idea to kind of do want myself somewhere around here. There we go.
That he was a dandy, apparently. So let's take a look at what he describes. A dandy is because if you go listen to what these recent people who are part of this Met Gala and pumping up this black dandism and you know, and look, it ain't about no. This ain't no nothing say look, some things is not racist. It could be racial.
I'm just saying when do we know it's something that's culturally appropriated? Because when I was doing my research, I saw people doing this. White people. Oh, let me say, not black people. And like, hey, I'm ignorant. I don't live in that world. I don't know. But I come originally from New Orleans, Louisiana. Pretty fashionable city. I ain't never seen nobody dressing like that unless it was a second line. Because if you'd address like that.
Anyway.
All right, let's See what. How Benjamin does really what he describes a dandy is because, like I said, if you listen to what these people, modern day people, it was. You think you heard word salad during the presidential race, you ain't heard nothing. Go look at Megan Kelly. And she was talking about what it's supposed to be. But anyway, here's Disraeli.
[00:09:18] Speaker B: Why do you wear all those.
Those chains?
[00:09:23] Speaker A: Hmm?
[00:09:24] Speaker B: You practicing to be Lord Mayor or something?
You know, for years I couldn't stand the sight of you because of your rings and your perfumes and your fancy way of dressing.
Do you have to be such a cursed dandy?
A dandy is not a mere clothes horse.
To be a true dandy is to be self disciplined, detached, even spiritual.
It is also a gesture of individuality and a mask behind which the slights and sneers of the world cannot reach.
Well, maybe you needed something to hide behind once, but hang it. That's why some of the others still distrust you. They expect their leading statesman to look the part, not like some Italian dancing master.
[00:10:09] Speaker A: I love it, by the way. I'm sorry, I like it.
And Ian McKellen, or Ian, whoever his name, he's gorgeous.
In the making of progress on the.
[00:10:20] Speaker B: Proposed turnpike between.
[00:10:27] Speaker A: Athle Town near Bundon county of Dawson and we Lord M.
I fear that this urgent matter may suffer the same unhappy fate.
Oh, man. So that happened and that. So go check out that series. It was really, really good. It's on YouTube.
Let me see the. The page that had it and I'll put the links. It was from this channel. What's this channel says YouTube movies. But that's not who it was. It was another channel. I. I'll put in the link who it, what channel it is.
Shout. Well, Shout Factory must have made it. So maybe it is on YouTube movies. But anyway, I. I'll put, put the links in the chat. It was really, really good, really interesting. You know, his Israelis claim the fame for you history buffs. He bought the what, the Suez Canal.
And another great part of history, the Rothschilds financed it. And I knew that. And so that's great history behind that.
That's part of contemporary, like history as well.
So just go look at it. So, because, you know, y' all know I love English history and English movies and all that stuff. You know, I'm an Anglophile. All right, so now we saw that and I just want to give you an idea. So let's. I'm gonna bounce around a little bit.
Let's go here.
And I I'll put this in here.
Let me just show you this really quickly.
There's another great YouTube channel. I love his channel. It's called Forgotten Lives.
And is this it?
Okay, I'm getting ahead of myself. I'll come back to this. Let's go to this one and.
And let's go full screen.
So Beau Brummel, everybody though, and I know most of you, you're a very intelligent audience. He started the dandy look or fop. Fopish. That fancy looking. We just heard Disraeli, I think pretty accurately described what Beau Brummel was about. Okay. And Bo Brummel. And this is a really good movie. The king's advisor, Beau Brummel, his rise and epic.
He rose. He rose through the ranks. And it just is almost look at as quickly as he rolls. He fell back down to earth because he was close to the King. And we see. That's our boy from Downton's Abbey.
He's gonna be. Well, you haven't seen it yet, but he'll be playing King George iii, who again, this is the Regency period. Then he, you know, becomes king.
So let's just take a look at Bo Brummel, the white man who started Dand.
Mr. Bu. Prince.
[00:14:14] Speaker B: Your highness.
[00:14:19] Speaker A: Now you can't. Couldn't really see it. And that cape, you know, I love a cape. Bo Brummel started the trousers. Cuz before that, you'll see when King George III comes in, or the Prince George. At this point, I don't think he's king yet.
They were still wearing the stockings and such. Right. But Bo Brummel, he calls it an uproar and a craze and a trend. So he's responsible for men going into trousers.
There's the stockings. Right.
[00:14:50] Speaker B: What do you think?
For my wedding?
Yes. Really, George? Yes.
Exquisite, vibrant, eclectic. My father says I have no taste.
You have taste, your highness.
You have an abundance of taste and abundance.
So do you like what I'm wearing or not? Yes, your highness. Oh, stop doing that, George. Just call me George Pierce.
George. So I have taste.
But if I might suggest it just a little too much taste. Too much taste.
What should I do? If I may?
Certainly.
Everything I do, I do for England.
First I feel naked.
My father lost America in a war to the Yankees.
What did it cost him? His marbles. I run of a few debts and I have to marry a foreigner.
And she's ugly. How is the king? No, not good. Not good at all. Bloody awful. In fact, he's totally sane, but old don't try to make a fool of me. No, your highness, no.
[00:16:33] Speaker A: Can you imagine? No.
Like, not seeing yourself with the makeup and your life shocked.
[00:16:41] Speaker B: Make a fool of me.
Not trying to make a fool of me. No, your highness, No.
I feel plucked. No.
Radiant. I look dirty.
[00:16:55] Speaker A: No.
[00:16:57] Speaker B: Manly.
[00:17:05] Speaker A: When I see.
Yes.
[00:17:11] Speaker B: Yes.
See the man.
By God, you're a genius. Yeah.
I did nothing.
[00:17:27] Speaker A: Okay, so there you have it.
Bo Brummel started the dandy look, and that's pretty much whatever you see now. That's the origins of it. I'm gonna just leave it like that. And if you want some more information about Bo Bo Brummel, there is a great YouTube channel called, like I said, forgotten Live. So now I'll share that.
And the Regency fashion icon turned insane.
He went, like, super broke. Well, he always was broke because he always spent all his money on clothes and. And having a good time, right? And trying. You know, back then, you had to. Appearance was everything. Had to keep up with the Joneses and keep up appearance and keep up with the royals, and.
And so he was always broke. Disraeli was broke, even though he came from a wealthy family. But that poppish or that dandy lifestyle was extremely expensive. You can see how they dressed, right?
And he made some serious etiquette for pies with. With King George iii. And you're out of there. So he got kicked out outside the circles. He had no more patronage or no more connections. That was everything back then. So check out that movie that I just showed you.
The king's advisor, Bo Brummel. And then also look at this. On with Forgotten lives, the Regency fashion icon turned insane, Bo Brummel.
And let me see. Do I have anything else?
Let's just for fun, before we get out of here, I. Oh, I want to show some more examples of this rail is drip. So we said that not a drip. The man was clean, y' all.
He was.
And so in a movie, they joke that he.
He was very handsome in his young days. Like. Like all of us, you know, we all gonna transform to the gargoyle. Some. Some representation of a gargoyle.
The older we get. It is what it is, but just want to show a little bit of the fashion. So here, everybody, not everybody, but most of the men are dandies. Right? Look at the. The collars. For those of you who are listening. There's a lot of velvet and gold and brocade and lace that the men are wearing. I'm not even. The men look better than the women.
And it weren't necessarily gay or anything or flam. I mean, it was a flamboyant dress. It was just. We heard what this really said. It was a way of standing out and being untouchable. So it was a mask. It was armor for them. Right.
So he's. Gloves. They have these gloves on. You'll. And not all the men wore gloves. It didn't. It didn't matter what time of day it was or occasion they were going to wear gloves. And so that's what Disraeli has on. And this gentleman. And so then in the next scene, here he is with his friend. They're similarly dressed. You know, these are probably silk, fine silks and linens. The ascot, Lord is. I don't know how they can talk or breathe. The ascot is all the way up to this dude's ears. And I'm not exaggerating.
Disraeli, he is. He has a cameo and I love cameos. So the woman. The women wore cameos and the men were camp. Wore cameos.
Again, look at all. Probably leather gloves.
Just gorgeous. And I don't. I can appreciate some verdict like this. You know, we try to wear this today.
It look like it'll look costumey, obviously, but I can appreciate a fine tailored suit, a man crisp, good, good accessories that complement him.
So I. I don't have a problem with. I. I was sad when Disraeli, we just saw, he. He started dressing like a mortician. But that was perfect and great advice that his friend gave him because we know impressions are what the first thing you could be saying the best things, whatever, and saying, I got the cure for cancer, here's a million dollars. But if people are not connecting with you visually for whatever reason, good, bad or ugly may not even be your fault. You know, it's just not going to work. So he had to start dressing more conservatively because he was representing the Conservative Party, the Tories, at that time and throughout his career. So let's find some more of his clothing. Okay. Here. Now, this is like, this is tame for him. So for those of you who are listening now, he has the Stella A vest with some gold in it and it's the vest with like a waist vest, I guess. I don't know the terms. A waistcoat. So again, Beau Brummel, if you were not going to wear a cape, you're going to wear a waistcoat. You're not going to have the tails. That was out, you know, like we saw with King George iii, like, that was out, the tails and all that stuff. Unless you were going like a tuxedo affair. No. So for everyday dressing now, you had the. The. The shorter coat. And I just love how this. I'm not sure this lace, but these ruffles. So the ruffles, the pins and the ascots. And the ruching on the ascots.
Prime, prime, prime, prime. Let's see. Can we see up front?
A front view.
I was trying to get a front view of it. And this is.
Here we go. This is this rally with his family, his lovely family.
But look at this. This cost a fortune. He was broke. I kind of skipped it. But if you go look at this, you'll see in the beginning of the movie, the creditors are beating down his door.
His pops tried to help him out. And this was really a good. This movie and Disraeli's life, as far as this was presented, showed you never give up. It's great to have a great supporting family with a mom and a dad.
You can't beat it. So this is kind of a dark picture, but he has on, for those of you who are listening now, to. Dude, this. The budget alone for Disraeli's costumes had to be in the. In the thousands. Okay. Because he. He kind of almost changed costumes every scene, or, you know, clothing rather.
But he has on this green forest, emerald green velvet with a plaid vest. So he had to have the vest. Again, the ruffles chain. More chains. Or just as many chains as Mr. T. Okay, so Mr. T, I see you. You got this off the dandies. And here he is again in a new.
The next scene.
If I can get my computer to cooperate.
He's in a totally different scene. Well, you can see it here. Let's see. Let's go back a bit and see if it'll come up for us.
No go. No go. But let's see, we can find it now trying to get this scene. Here we go. And so it's kind of meshing, but now he's in gray velvet with a wide lapel. And, you know, that's probably silk and ascot. I don't know how they're talking to ascot.
Oh, my. Like I said, it's up to his ears. It's. It's cradling his chin with a pin in it with the ruffle. I love this.
I think it's fan. And of course, the hats. I don't even have to mention hats. Right? You're gonna have a hat, and the hat's gonna match in some capacity, Right?
So it's not enough. He Has a silken, probably ascot ruching with a gold pin in it. The dude. And. And it's pink. The. The. His collar is pink pinstripe vest, gray vest with white pinstripes. Pinstripes, chains. You.
Well, for those of you listen, I'm not making this up. Go look at this movie, Disraeli, a Portrait of a Romantic for free on YouTube and you'll see what I'm saying.
I loved it. Then the dude got a big gray probably silk bow on his jacket.
A bow. Like a. Like a material made out of like a bow. Like. Like a bow you put in a little girl's hair.
I love it. I love it. So go check that out. So that's what a dandy is. And I had no idea.
But when I saw this movie, I didn't even know the Met Gala was going on and what it was about.
I just happened to look at this, this series and I thoroughly enjoyed it. And I hope you enjoy it as well.
Shout out to you all, thank you for joining me today.
I will put all the links to.
To these movies in the chat or the description box. I'll say. But again, we looked at Disraeli Portrait of a romantic on YouTube, then the regency fashion icon Bo Brummel. Okay. And that's on Forgotten Lives. And. And then you can also look at the movie about his life, Bo Br. A King. A King's Advisor.
So please go check those out. Let me know what you think. Don't forget to comment.
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