Episode Transcript
[00:00:27] Speaker A: I could be in one place forever let that place be hallelujah all of my dreams and all of my wishes used to be great in hallelujah after I wake up, put on my makeup guess where I'm heading.
You take Chicago, keep San Jose. Just give me good hope.
Diamonds and jewels burn make a better count diamond if I could in one place forever let that place be.
[00:01:26] Speaker B: All right. Yes. We have a new opening theme to how better David saved my life. Life lessons from classic Hollywood. I'm Moya.
[00:01:36] Speaker C: And I'm Georgia.
[00:01:38] Speaker B: And Georgia, what did you think? Cause Georgia didn't see it, so it was a surprise. You know, it was hard for me to keep this as a secret. She knew I was changing it, but she didn't know what it was gonna look like. So, Georgia, I hope you like it, because I don't want to change it again.
[00:01:52] Speaker C: I love it.
[00:01:54] Speaker B: All right.
Whoo. I am so glad I was like, well, she gotta like this because she got to make the next one herself because I'm not doing.
[00:02:05] Speaker C: Don't go changing. I love it.
[00:02:07] Speaker B: Don't go changing. I love it. Well, I am so happy. So that footage actually came from this movie you can see from the seventies. I'm introducing Miss Melody Jones. Shout out to real black. I will leave the link in the description to real black cinema, the real black page on YouTube, obviously, and it's in his name. They have a lot of known and obscure black films, documentaries and everything like that. Just a really good channel. So go over there. Well, I. Look, they got. They don't need me to push them. They have like over 2 million subscribers, so they don't need my help. But if you want to see the full movie, go over there and check that out. I. Georgia, I'm gonna keep my opinions to myself. We will. Let me just say we will not be reviewing movie. I'll. Betty Davis saved my life and I'm gonna leave it like that. But again, you go to real black cinema or real black and check out real black one, I think is as well. But I'll leave the description and the link in the description box box for our YouTube channel. But thank you, everyone, for tuning in. Yes, we have a different time today.
Hats heads. You know, life comes in. You got to do what you got to do.
So we had to change our times. But thank you for hanging in there with us. And so hopefully next, next week, we'll be back to our regularly scheduled programming. And so, Georgia, are we ready for this? What are we doing today?
[00:03:47] Speaker C: We're doing the godfather.
[00:03:50] Speaker B: No. And I wasn't even thinking, like, I should have had some music, some italian music or something like that in the back. But I told Georgia, I don't believe it. Cause I can't say, but she says she has a gangster hat on. And I don't know why I didn't think about that. But she can't get her camera to work. But, you know, we usually use our avatars anyway, so I still say, so, Georgia, you gotta try to get the camera right before you and I get off of here because I have to see you in the gangster hat. So she inspired me to go put my gangster hat on right now. So that's why I have this on. I was trying to put a moustache on my, um, Bitmoji, but I don't know how to do that. I couldn't find it in time. But anyway, so, George, I do have the trailer for the Godfather. I don't know if you want to look at that or you want to talk about it first. Whatever you want to do, take it away.
[00:04:45] Speaker C: Well, I've never seen the trailer, I think to the godfather. So if you like, we can go ahead and start with that, if you're ready. If not, well, I'll just kind of talk about it.
[00:04:54] Speaker B: Well, yeah, we can, um. We can take a look at that. So for those. So just give you a little introduction to the godfather. So this is courtesy of IMDb and I hope the sound works. Let's see.
And there we go.
I'm gonna make a monofree gambit.
It's not personal. It's strictly business.
[00:06:00] Speaker A: This is the business we've chosen.
[00:06:07] Speaker B: Godfather.
So obviously there was a recent reshowing of this and restoration. So if you couldn't tell, this is so iconic. And y'all saw it in a previous video when I was at the anti store and around town looking for movie memorabilia. This is iconic, of course. This is the late, great Marlon Brando. Oh, gosh, I'm sorry. I'm not sharing my screen anymore. Let me share my screen again.
Sorry about that.
But yeah, so let me just show that again.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
This is iconic.
These graphics before this, like, people use these graphics and this type of thing for all kinds of stuff now hasn't even had to do. You can use it for painting a house. I mean, no, you know, it's just that iconic. And of course, this is the late, great Marlon Brando. And I'm pretty sure Georgia has some tea on him. And because he. Because this is in the seventies, Marlon Brando was huge in like the fifties and the sixties, and he kind of was winding down and he had like a resurgence after this, especially in like the eighties and then kind of dipped again in the nineties. But I'm pretty sure George will talk about that. But you can see, directed by Francis Ford Coppola and screenplay by Mario Puzzle. This is based on his book, book the Godfather. And that. I don't even know that because you had gangster films in the past, but no, this, the word godfather, now that's iconic. That's an Alexa Khan now. So nobody even probably even thought about Godfather. You know, before this came out, of course, my own brand, we saw a very young al Pacino. Can't really say James Khan that much, but I mean, it's just a host of stars. So, Georgia, go ahead and just hip, you know, now, Georgia, you are you golf? No, you started golf off. You want a golf ball of virgin, were you? I am.
[00:08:09] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:08:10] Speaker B: I couldn't remember. I thought you were. So, Georgia, maybe other five other people in the whole universe has not seen the godfather. So, Georgia, go ahead and start whatever you want to talk about now. Pull up some pictures.
[00:08:23] Speaker C: Sure thing. Yeah.
Well, this movie is. I can understand how a lot of people think this is one of the best movies ever made, if not the best. I understand. I get it. It's very epic in scope and it has the authenticity because it was made by Italians. It is very gritty. It's profound. It's got this depth and breadth to it. And when it was made, it was really way ahead of his time.
I mean, a lot of the scenes people just talked about and they just could not get over it. I mean, and there are some tropes in this movie that everybody knows about.
So, yeah, it was way ahead of its time. I'm going to talk a little bit about the actual plot itself.
It takes place at the end of World War two, from about 1945 to 1955. And you have Vito Corleone, played by Marlon Brando. He's head of a large crime family. And in the first godfather, they don't say the word mafia or Cosa Nostra, but that's exactly what it is. It is. It's Mafia. And so two of his sons, sonny, played by James Caen, and Fredo John Cazale, are in the business. And the third son, Michael. Al Pacino has just come back from the war and he's a decorated war hero, served in the marines.
And you get the feeling that Michael is very special. They have very high hopes for him maybe to go on into politics.
[00:09:59] Speaker B: I just want to point out, George, I'm sorry. So this is sunny and this is Fredo. Okay. And this is Cazale. And this is Khan. And.
And, well, you'll get to him later, but go ahead. I'm sorry.
[00:10:14] Speaker C: Yeah, well, you have the whole family and their friends, as you can see there in the picture. They're gathered for daughter Connie, played by Talia Shire, for her wedding to Carlo.
Okay. And one of the customs that the, they have is that on the day of his daughter's wedding, he will grant kind of like a fairy godfather. He will grant wishes. He sees himself as this very benevolent person. And he's going to.
[00:10:46] Speaker B: As all that. As most devils do.
[00:10:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
Yes. And so, actually, as the movie unfolds, one of the other four Mafia families has decided that they want to approach the Corleone family and go into the illegal narcotics business. And so they want Don Corleone's help.
Don Corleone decides his family should stay out of the illegal drug business because it'll just draw too much heat.
So what follows next is a war against the other crime families.
And you're going to see they eliminate their competition in order to gain power and control. And so you're going to see a progression and a shifting of roles in the Corleone family. And the way that I decided to watch this movie was, I thought, you know, I've got to first understand the characters. Characters and see the differences in them. And then you can kind of understand how the movie is going to unfold. Once you get the characters down, then the rest really falls into place.
And they're so well drawn. I mean, the way that they have such distinct personalities and you see how there are such drawbacks. I mean, there's flaws in them, but still, it doesn't hold them back from ascending to the very top. I mean, the very highest echelons of syndicated crime.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: Yes. Um, I mean, and that's a really good, uh, opening intro you did, by the way, Georgia. Um, yeah.
Well, go ahead. You're doing such a good job. I don't have anything to say. I'll just. I just keep showing pictures.
[00:12:36] Speaker C: Okay. All right. Um, well, you know, Don Corleone, as you can see there, he believes that family comes first. And, you know, I think it's just really amazing, some things that I found in this movie, because at first I got a little bit aggravated about, like how dark and shadowy the photography was. And then, you know, it's like you've heard the saying, dirty deeds done in the dark. And then also, this is to point out how. How mysterious and very imperious this godfather character is. So that's why you see a lot of darkness and shadow. Another thing that I wanted to point out was the. Because the movie is so dark, the use of oranges in the movie. When you see an orange in the movie, watch what happens next. Okay. If you've never seen. If you're one of the five people in our audience that have never.
[00:13:31] Speaker B: Why are you really telling me something?
So oranges.
[00:13:35] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:13:36] Speaker B: Hmm.
[00:13:37] Speaker C: Yes. Oranges figure very prominently.
Yeah. And something happens after you see an orange, something big happens.
[00:13:46] Speaker B: I never even paid any attention to that. It is so crazy.
Wow.
Let's kind of see stuff. Um, let me share this. I'll keep going. I'm, um. Sure.
[00:14:01] Speaker C: Okay. So. Okay, so this is how I was able to kind of draw the characters. Okay. You have Sunny, who's played by, you know, James Cahn, and he's, you know, aggressive, and he's kind of hot tempered.
[00:14:16] Speaker B: And like Woody Allen, huh? Putting on makeup. I know it's not, but he really looks like.
[00:14:21] Speaker C: He does look like Woody Allen, doesn't he? And look how different Marlon Brando looks there as opposed to the way they.
[00:14:26] Speaker B: Do his makeup here. Um, about how old is he?
[00:14:32] Speaker C: I'd say in his forties, moya.
[00:14:34] Speaker B: And he. This is what, a really good makeup job. And he. I know you'll get to all this, how he transformed, because he was one of those method actors, you know, from back in the day.
[00:14:45] Speaker C: And, you know, a lot of people thought at the time that he stuffed, like, either cotton balls or Kleenex tissues and his, you know, because when he did the audition for it, amazingly, he didn't think he was going to have to audition for him, but they made him audition, and he got the look and he transformed himself. But actually, it was because of a. Of a prosthetic that was made for him that he put in his mouth to give him to alter the look of his face and also skillfully applied makeup.
[00:15:12] Speaker B: Right. And now he won the Academy award for this one or the second one. I can't remember.
[00:15:18] Speaker C: This one.
[00:15:19] Speaker B: This one. Okay. And that's when he. The controversy had the actress who played an Indian, an american Indian, had her come and take the. Accept the award and make a speech. Right.
[00:15:28] Speaker C: Sasheen Littlefeather.
[00:15:29] Speaker B: Okay. But she was an actress. I don't think she was even a real indian. It was weird. Let me just say. It was weird.
[00:15:35] Speaker C: Yeah. She wasn't a real indian. It turned out it was weird.
[00:15:39] Speaker B: Oh, anyway, girl, let me stay focused. Keep going.
Goodness gracious. So the foolishness has not just started, guys, with all this virtual signal and people misrepresenting themselves.
[00:15:52] Speaker C: Okay, well, you know, this.
This movie has such excellently drawn characters, and the acting is just so spot on. I mean, I have to give them their due about that. It's just masterfully done. I have to say.
I like the way they also were able to do the character of Fredo. That guy is an excellent actor. The late John Cazale.
[00:16:18] Speaker B: Yes. Let me see.
[00:16:19] Speaker C: He died when he's only 42. But, you know, you can see how the family.
He's.
He's seen by his family as somewhat weaker and not as smart. He's kind of a goof, kind of a pushover.
[00:16:32] Speaker B: Right.
[00:16:33] Speaker C: So they send him off to Las Vegas, and they just kind of have him do, like, little errand kind of things. And then you have, of course, Michael. And Michael is very different in the way that he is very unruffled. He's intelligent, but he's very cold, and he's very cunning.
[00:16:53] Speaker B: This is Fredo, guys.
[00:16:54] Speaker C: This is Fredo. Yes. This is such an excellent acting job by this guy.
[00:16:59] Speaker B: And this is Meryl Streep's.
They were going together. They were intended, and she was in love with him. And he died so young like that. And this guy, they said he only did, like, three or four movie, but every movie was like, a killer movie, which is just. That's a trip.
[00:17:17] Speaker C: Now, see, moy, I didn't know that. Wow.
[00:17:21] Speaker B: Anything I just said about the, like, which part?
[00:17:23] Speaker C: Uh, about him and Meryl Streep.
[00:17:25] Speaker B: Yes. He. She was the love of her life, and she was. When he died, she was devastated, and it took her a while. And the guy who she eventually married, and now they getting divorced, and they already gotten divorced after being married umpteen years. What? Since the dad made. But that's none of my business. Um, but, yeah, he. He, uh, he, yeah, she died in her arms, basically. But, yeah, they were madly in love, but go ahead, honey.
[00:17:51] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Well, and of course, then you have Michael, who is, like I was saying, he's just very intelligent. He's very cold and cunning, and he says he does not want to be a part of the family business.
And then you also have, oh, there's the adopted son, and he's kind of like their brother. His name is Tom Hagen. He's played by Robert Duvall. And he's very level headed, very thoughtful, and he's the conciliary, which is their legal counsel.
[00:18:19] Speaker B: He's an attorney as Michael Corleone, as we say, pacino.
[00:18:27] Speaker C: And, of course, he went on to do the newer version of Scarface.
[00:18:32] Speaker B: Yes. And we talked. Well, we did the older one, but we might do the new one. I don't know, the recent one. What? A one by Pacino. But anyway. Go ahead.
[00:18:40] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, a lot of people think that this was really more Al Pacino's movie. And Al Pacino at the time was upset that he didn't get nominated for best actor because he had more screen time, actually, even than Marlon Brando did.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: He was right. I thank you. I found that very strange. And maybe because they're gonna say they gave Brando. Cause Brando had already won an Oscar. I'm not gonna say they gave him, like, a consolation Oscar. Cause he was great. He all eyes on him when he was on the screen. But it was more of Pacino's movie. So that was strange.
[00:19:20] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I thought that was odd, too. I mean, not that I didn't want to take anything away from Marlon Brando, because he did an excellent job.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: Right. Here's Sonny, and here's Michael. I'm trying to find an adopted, quote, unquote adopted son, the consiglia. And that's another word. No one say consigliere until this came out. But, yeah, so true. So many words got put in our lexicon by this movie. Let me see if I can find.
Oh, go ahead. I'm looking for Sonny.
[00:19:54] Speaker C: Oh, you're doing that. I'm just going to keep on talking.
But, you know, the thing about this movie that had not been done before is that you enter their world, you go right into it, and you see all their secrets and all the dark dealings that they do, and you see their world from their point of view and their perspective.
And at the core, they are undeniably evil.
[00:20:24] Speaker B: Yes, it's a difference.
[00:20:26] Speaker C: You know, it's kind of strange because the movie kind of manipulates you into taking the side of the Corleone because, you know, there are rivals with these other mob families, but yet, because you are in their world, you see it from their point of view, and you find yourself, you're on their side, which is like, oh, my gosh. What kind of movie sorcery is this?
How did they do this?
[00:20:53] Speaker B: I'm watching.
[00:20:53] Speaker C: I'm going, oh, my gosh. Right.
[00:20:56] Speaker B: I totally agree with you. I don't know if. And I don't want to give away too much to anybody other the other four people in the world who. Who haven't seen this.
But some of the gruesomeness, it's also iconic. People make jokes out some of the gruesomeness of this movie. And like I said, yeah, it had gangsta pictures before, but this was just groundbreaking. Like what?
I'm not gonna say a scene, but it involves a horse. And I'll just leave it like that.
[00:21:26] Speaker C: Oh, Lord.
[00:21:30] Speaker B: If you. A horse person, a horse freak, then don't look at this movie. I don't look at their scene. That's all I can tell you.
[00:21:37] Speaker C: Oh, I know. Oh, yeah.
Let me tell you something about the. In rehearsal, they used, like, a fake. Okay. A prosthetic thing. And so when they actually did the filming and they used, like, the real thing. That guy screaming that. That was his real reaction.
Yes.
[00:22:01] Speaker B: Oh, that poor man.
What a shout out to Ford Coppola. He did that girl. That poor man is looking. That was an old dude today. Lucky. And get a heart attack.
[00:22:14] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, the good thing to know is that, you know, when they have these, like, dog food factories where they take, like, you know, old. The old horses that they use. This was like a horse from a slaughterhouse. You know that it was, like, already, like, so.
[00:22:31] Speaker B: So, like, dog food is still horse meat.
[00:22:34] Speaker C: Well, it was when this movie was made. It was. I don't know if they're doing it in present day, but they did then.
[00:22:39] Speaker B: I always wondered that. Yeah, that. Do they still do that now? And glue. I don't think they use. I know it. Was that true? Like, they used to say they made glue out of horses. Was that true?
Glue?
[00:22:52] Speaker C: I don't know if they still do it, but they did back. Way back when they did.
[00:22:56] Speaker B: That was true.
[00:22:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:58] Speaker B: Okay, well, let's really kind of.
[00:23:02] Speaker C: I was in aghast about the way that they did the women in this movie because, I mean, most of the time they were okay. They would bring them out when there was a wedding or a christening or a dance. And a lot of time they were just like, you know, standing around holding a baby or something. But. But. And, yeah, I know that women had very limited roles in the forties and fifties, but, I mean, were the men just ignoring them or were they just putting them on a pedestal? I was trying to figure out what's going on here with the women in this movie because you can see they're very insulated. They don't seem. They seem to be kind of ignorant about what's going on with the family.
[00:23:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:41] Speaker C: They don't seem to understand, like, all the nuances about what's going on in their surroundings. And that's. That was really something that I had a hard time trying to figure out. I mean, they were just, you know, like, this is all just total.
Just masculine, a man's world, you know, and women just were like, you look pretty or you get married or you have babies. But that was their. I was their whole being right there. Woman.
[00:24:16] Speaker B: Now, was that a part of you of make me like it? Like, or turned you off or. No.
[00:24:24] Speaker C: Yeah, kind of did. That was part of my.
Yeah, like, make me like it because there. Because to be perfectly honest, do I find this movie one of the greatest ever made? No, I do not. I know I'm bucking the majority. I know that I am. And that was one of the problems I had with it, because the women didn't seem to be intelligent beings at all in this movie.
[00:24:46] Speaker B: Not even hurt like, so these two eventually get married and talk about that. But you don't think so. You didn't think much of her? I don't want to put any words. You didn't think much of her character?
[00:25:02] Speaker C: No, I didn't. To be perfectly honest. No, I didn't.
[00:25:06] Speaker B: Okay. Now, I. Do you think that was the production and how the women were placed in? Because I thought it was strategic, and I'll tell you why in a second. But do you think that was on purpose, the minimalization of women or you just. It just naturally flow? Like, unfortunately, I wish, out of a lot of these stories, movies that we do, I wish I would have read the book first. So I don't know how to, how women were portrayed in the book. But, you know, we have is the movie. So do you think that was on purpose, in your, in your opinion, the minimization of women or you think it just, it was just organic, how it felt in the movie, the women's place in the movie?
[00:25:45] Speaker C: I think it was organic because it was the forties and the fifties and women did not have a role in the mob organization. And I think that italian families at that time were very old school, very traditional. And I think it was organic. That's, that's what my thought was. But it was kind of difficult because I wanted them to, somebody to wake up and say, this is awful, horrible.
[00:26:17] Speaker B: But so from, let's, let's fast forward because then you have, this was the, this was the blueprint for future gangster mafia movies. Okay? And in history, there were very few lady gangsters. They might have been like gun moles or something like that. Um, so you're right. So you're right. This was organic for them not to women, not to have a huge role in this. But I still think.
Well, and I guess because, like, nothing about the soprano. So you and I were talking about this when we decided to do this. Like, there. There would be no, obviously no sopranos without Godfather and whatever else that proceeded after Godfather. But even when I'm thinking about Camilla Soprano and what's her name, the other woman, what's Michael Imperial, his girlfriend, I can't remember name. But anyway, the women in there, unless they were like outright gangsters, but it was a man's world. Because even. Cause Camilla knew what Tony Soprano was doing, I. These women knew. I can't see how they did not know. You know what I mean? So let me ask you, you don't think it in real life or in the movies that women had no clue? Did you think they had no clue?
[00:27:27] Speaker C: That's what I felt. They had absolutely no clue. They seemed like they were totally oblivious, didn't understand or know what was going on. And if they did, they acted like they just totally didn't care.
[00:27:37] Speaker B: Well, that's what I think. Because, like, I'm like, I'm thinking about Goodfellas, one of my favorite movies of all time, seen like a million times. And I don't know, I suggest. Have you seen Goodfellas?
[00:27:47] Speaker C: No, and I'd love to see it.
[00:27:49] Speaker B: Okay, well, I was about to say, should I even suggest that? Cause, you know, you didn't like this one, but a woman is heavy, heavily featured Lorraine Bracko's character in that movie.
And it kind of goes to that point. I don't. I'm not going to give anything away about what women may have known. And I feel like this, Georgia, even though this was an evil, evil people. But I'm going to give the men a little.
Some Kool aid points for that, for keeping their families separate. Because, you know, in gangsta film Mafia films, they were like, you. You never touch a person's family. As opposed to Nacho, they come and kill everybody. The mama, sister, cat, dog, goldfish. They come shoot everybody up. But you never touch. You didn't fool with people's kids, you know? So now, you know, I'm sorry about. Sorry back then. So I kind of give them some Kool Aid points, if you will, for that. But it was.
[00:28:51] Speaker C: You're right.
[00:28:51] Speaker B: It was a man's world. And I think, cool, you know, now the women, if they know, you know, y'all living off of blood money. So how do you rectify that? But again, if they know, like you said, I can't see them not knowing something.
Yeah, but like I said, georgia, what you gonna do about it? What are you gonna do? You can't get killed. Or if you leave, you'll get cut off. You're not gonna have anything. So what? And if you have kids, you can't leave your kids out in the cold because you're not. Then you're not going to take the gangsters kids from them. That's not going to happen.
That's what it is. Yeah, that's another saying from the godfathers. And never go against the fan. This movie has so many sayings.
[00:29:37] Speaker C: Well, one of the things about this movie is when there are a lot of people that are getting bumped off, I found myself going, well, I really don't care about these people who can kill them.
That's so, such a horrible confession for me to make. But since we're on the topic of why I didn't like it, I was going, now, listen, this is, this is coming from a person who was shattered when the dog, old yeller, dies, didn't I?
Yeah.
[00:30:11] Speaker B: Yeah, you ruined it.
[00:30:15] Speaker C: I mean, I cried buckets when that dog died. And here, like in the godfather, all these people are getting killed, all getting bumped off. And I'm going, they're not relatable. They're all very cold, distant people. And they're such bad people. You go, yeah, another one's getting bumped off.
[00:30:35] Speaker B: But I think that's the point. Like, you weren't supposed to care, I think, because, see, you, you said it when we first started looking at it. You're in this world. They suck you in. You're, you're at the table when they're making these deals and, and you're invisible, obviously. So you are sucked in and you're not supposed, I don't. You're not supposed to care because that is the cold blooded way of these people. So I think mission accomplished, you know? Do you understand what I'm saying? That's what I get out of it.
[00:31:08] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, you know, I tell you what it did. It filled me with dread because I knew there was going to be some kind of a vindictive murder or an execution about every ten minutes. And I was filled with anxiety. I was sitting on the end of my seat in a bad way, and I was thinking, there was a guy who, you know when they invite you for a car ride and there's somebody sitting in the back like, don't just yell at the screen, like, don't you.
Have you learned anything? Look behind you. Don't get in that car.
[00:31:39] Speaker B: So you will. Well, I can't tell you didn't like it. You were so invested in this movie. You were invested and not invested in it.
[00:31:48] Speaker C: But, moy, I think that when a great movie for me can make you care about the villains, even so that their deaths are affecting to you in a great movie, that's, you know, a great movie can make you feel for the villain. I looked at this and I'm going, I don't care if they, y'all get gunned down.
[00:32:05] Speaker B: I don't care.
Hilarious.
That is so freaking funny. Well, um, I really. There's really not anything. George, you did a really good job. Because I really didn't have much to say because, I mean, like, you know, very few people have not seen the godfather. I have part two of the godfather, which also killed a de Niro. So it's like a prequel. Then Robert De Niro, who was so young and good looking, he plays a lot. A young veto. And I kind of like that one a little bit more. So, Georgia, let me tell. So I know you saw it.
You talking that stuff because you went and looked at godfather to talking about you ain't make me like it. Why did you go look at Godfather two?
[00:32:54] Speaker C: Because I wanted to see if I would like the second one better because I heard a lot of people say it was really good, and some people thought it was even better. And Norman said, hey, you know our friend Norman? Hey, Norman. Shout out to you if you're listening to it. He even suggested, you know, you might want to watch Godfather too, and let me know what y'all think of it. And I thought it was very interestingly done, but I thought, oh, my gosh, there's even more of the same stuff in there.
[00:33:29] Speaker B: Oh, girl, I like that one a little better just by hair, only because I love to see backstories. So here's the trailer for that. I'm not gonna play it, but it's Vito as a young boy. He comes from the old country, as they say. So I love back stories, and I love history, obviously. And so Coppola, again, he does him in Puzzio and Robert Duvall and Pacino, obviously, they're in this one as well. And there's the narrow looking, just gorgeous, who know he would transform into the stupid gargoyle that he is. Did I just say that? But anyway, so, yeah, so he, so this.
So go. Go look at YouTube or read a book talking about Lacosa Nostra in the, um, the old country and the beginners of the mafia and all this kind. Go. Go look at it. We ain't getting to all that. But it is extremely interesting because Jacopo, they intertwine actual historical events into these stories, especially part two and such. So go look at that, man. And so. So I'm gonna start. Wind up. But Georgia and what, part three. They had a part three, like, years later with, like, in the nineties or something. And it stunk. It was horrible. I didn't even look at it. Cause I knew it wasn't gonna be any good, but. And I'm sorry for those who like it. Not many people, that's two of y'all maybe liked it, but go and study the history of the Mafia and how the United States government and the Kennedys. And it is so interesting, the history that the United States government had with the Mafia.
And even though it's not like this anymore, like we're showing you, and, like, this is part two and part one, it never went away. And if you really look at the systems that the mafia put in and some things and methods that are being used now by government and by big corporation, the mafia never, ever went away.
And you see drive by. Well, we know that still happens, but it's still interesting how they kind of took it off the front page and rejiggered it to look different. So I saw. That's why I love all that kind of stuff. But. So. So, Georgia. So you part one or part two? It still didn't do it for you?
[00:35:59] Speaker C: It didn't. I mean, I was still glued to the screen with part two. I thought it was fascinating, but I still felt that awful, emotionally unsatisfying feeling at the end of it made me feel hollow, and I didn't like it. So that's why it had to give me and make me like it to these movies. I'm. But see, this is. See, I really used to enjoy gangster movies with Jimmy Cagney and Edward G. Robinson, even. And George Raft. I think to me, he was the best mob going by country. I love George Raft. Such a big fan. But, you know, if you really like moya, I like what you were saying, because this is actually supposed to be based upon the Gambino family, right? And. And so. And also, like, the singer that they show at the beginning of the movie, you know, the. All the girls are crazy over. That's supposed to be based upon Frank Sinatra.
[00:36:53] Speaker B: Okay, girl. So that we getting into some tea right there. Because you know, what the rumors was, you know, were rather. Yes.
[00:37:05] Speaker C: One of the things that kind of surprised me was, you know, the godfather was into gambling and alcohol and prostitution, but he goes, ah, no drugs.
[00:37:14] Speaker B: That's why I.
Different levels of misery in hell. Thanks for that.
[00:37:21] Speaker C: Yeah. But you know, the one thing I think that's interesting about the godfathers, you don't really see the actual victims or people affected by gambling or the prostitution. Prostitution and the alcohol and all that.
Yeah, the alcohol running. You don't really see it that in there. You just see the family. So you're not really, you know, you're insulated from all that.
[00:37:45] Speaker B: Now, they do say something really racist for those of you who are triggered. They didn't trigger me because I was like, well, that explains that, you know, but they say something racist about what they call them, the colors, I believe. I can't remember what they say. They might have said something. No, but anyway, what they want to do with the narcotics, where, whether narcotics should start being distributed. And I was like, well, okay, that explains a lot.
[00:38:16] Speaker C: And we.
[00:38:16] Speaker B: And we fell for the Okie doe. Like people like Okie doke talking about black people. And we know black people ain't the only people that consume the drugs and stuff. But, you know, I don't get into all that because that's another rabbit hole. But what they said, what the person said about that when they were talking about if they was gonna get into drugs, um, and how to, you know, keep it out their neighborhoods, you know, it was facts, man. I mean, shoot. Like, now did we have to go and, you know, start doing it and distribute? No, and like I said, I don't want to get into all that, but that this is what happened. And like I said what I was saying, the mob never went away. It got absorbed and co opted into the government. It got absorbed and co opted into the. In corporate America because Vegas is still here. Because corporate America, working in hand with the government, us government, took it from the mob, okay? And that's go do your homework and research. But if you don't think the mafia, and it might be blood ties, but just look at the music business and the film business, it's no different. It ain't got to be dope or vice as they call it. Nothing has changed. It just is just new people, new faces, same mo.
Same mo, and it's packaged differently. Okay, so, um, cuz it. Cuz George, that's too much money.
Look, the mafia, you know, they were evil, but I give it that machine, it was a very efficient machine and you knew your place and nobody was acting a fool and all that. But kind of when all that busted up and then you brought in kind of like foreign control and, you know, you see where we are now, none of it's right. It's all evil. But do you kind of follow what I'm saying? It kind of went haywire, if you will.
[00:40:06] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, it did.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. It's all wrong, is all straight from hell. But, you know, there was organ, they call it, you think. Why do you think it was called the organization? Because it was organized and they knew how to control it and keep it how it was. And of course they warned against themselves and stuff, but there was a method to the madness, if you will. I just want to say this. In Georgia, I'm a, you know, let you have the last word. I want to share some great YouTube channels that if you don't want to see the movie or you're not into it, you know, that that's fine.
But I do want to share some, some great channels. This one is really good from mafia culture, and I hope I didn't butcher it up, but I'll leave a link in the description from their page from YouTube.
Ten lessons from Michael Corleone you need to know. And I just want to play a little bit of it because it's extremely interesting. And this is what I kind of say, like, I look, Gus Frank, look, Junior Ewing. Like all these good. And I look, I didn't look at Game of Thrones, but a lot of people talked about the wisdom of the dude, the dwarf, or midget, whatever you call him now.
They said he was really cunning and fast with it and got himself this. This is a, this is a sausage festival because, you know, they showed a lot of men here.
What do you think about that? Or do you have any thoughts on that?
[00:41:39] Speaker C: Well, I'm thinking I fall into this category where I'm going, okay. I can understand the, you know, from an artistic point of view. And yes, there's a lot in there that you, if you see it more than once, you're going to pick up. I mean, a lot to appreciate about it. There's very nuanced, but I still. I can appreciate that about a movie and still not like it.
[00:42:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, I hear you. Films, its themes and the timeless tale of struggle for power and influence speak to something deeper than the standard crime drama. And who better to learn from than Michael? Corleone himself is an incredibly flawed character. And yet those are the exact types of people we can learn the most from and to be with Sigma and I. And I do think looking at story like the Godfather and other, like, Game of Thrones, everybody went on about that. And like I said, august friends and better call Walt. And all this from, uh, breaking bad. You can learn a lot about how to handle yourself, in my opinion, um, in this world, and how to not to keep your cards close to your vest. I think if male or female keep. Did. Michael Coleon was a poker player. He played 3d chess. He and poker at the same time, kept his cards close to his vest. So I'm gonna give him that one. That's all I got. What else you have for us, my dear? And I'm gonna give you the last word.
[00:43:07] Speaker C: Well, moya, it was a fun ride today doing this movie, and although I don't see it up there with gone with the wind or Casablanca, I still think that it's a very richly textured movie, and I am still very glad that I finally did get to see it. And so, yeah, so I'm not a godfather virgin anymore.
[00:43:34] Speaker B: Well, please don't go look at the third one because you're like, oh, no, they. Even though you don't like me, they ryan, that. Well, what is our next movie, ma'am?
[00:43:45] Speaker C: When Harry met Sally.
[00:43:47] Speaker B: Absolutely. So we go once again, you know, we go to extremes, because we try to show everything and just run the gamut of movies for you guys. So we will be doing that one on the 25th. And so it stars Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal.
Rob Reiner, we know. And I hate to keep calling man meathead. He. Even though, let me stick to what we're talking about. But anyway, in the great Nora Ephron, who has passed just one of the unsung to me writers, screenwriters of all time, rom coms, as they say, romantic comedies. But anyway, I've never seen this. Now. Have you seen this one?
[00:44:34] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I saw when it first came out.
[00:44:36] Speaker B: Okay, so we flipping the roles. I am now the virgin, the film virgin. And so am I going to enjoy it? Oh, it's gonna make me like it. You know, my personality. What do you think is gonna happen?
[00:44:49] Speaker C: Um, I think that it raises a very interesting question that we're gonna talk about.
[00:44:55] Speaker B: Mm hmm. Okay.
[00:44:57] Speaker C: Yeah, there's a big question in the movie, and we're all good. Yeah, it's.
And we'll get. We'll dive deep into that one.
[00:45:06] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. I like. Now I'm intrigued. So, guys, we will see you on the 25th, and you know, we, on our facebook page, we have our whole, not all of it, but we have just most of our movies listed out. So save the dates for those movies. But we will see you back here on Facebook Live, 01:00 p.m. Central standard time on the 25th. That is a Saturday, so, Georgia, I am out of here, girl. What about you?
[00:45:32] Speaker C: Me, too. It's a wrap for me.
[00:45:34] Speaker B: Thank you guys so much for tuning in. We looking, we're looking forward to being with you again. And just, we do this all for you. So for Hobbetta Davis saved my life. Life lessons from classic Hollywood. I'm Moya.
[00:45:46] Speaker C: And I'm Georgia.
[00:45:48] Speaker B: We'll see you guys next time. Thank you.
