Black Woman Discovers White Women Have Man Problems Too!: "Waiting to Exhale" (1995)

Episode 115 September 07, 2024 01:05:51
Black Woman Discovers White Women Have Man Problems Too!: "Waiting to Exhale" (1995)
How Bette Davis Saved My Life
Black Woman Discovers White Women Have Man Problems Too!: "Waiting to Exhale" (1995)

Sep 07 2024 | 01:05:51

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Can four female friends finally find the love they feel they deserve in unexpected relationships with men from different backgrounds? Starring Whitney Houston and Angela Bassett.

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Yes. Hello, everyone, and welcome to another great episode of how Bette Davis saved my life. Life lessons from classic Hollywood. I'm Moya. [00:00:09] Speaker B: And I'm Georgia. [00:00:11] Speaker A: And so glad to be with you again, my great, great, one of my besties in cinema. Besties in classic Hollywood, whatever. I don't know what we call it. [00:00:25] Speaker B: We are movie mavens. We are your cinema sirens. [00:00:30] Speaker A: But for today's theme, I'm saying we are friends in cinema. Friends in film, colleagues in cinema. I don't know. I'm trying to think of trying to do alliteration, but it's not really working out. But there is a theme for today, and if you haven't guessed this, it's about friendship, no matter what. And, Georgia, what is today's film? [00:00:55] Speaker B: Waiting to exhale. [00:00:57] Speaker A: Yes. 1990 five's waiting to exhale. And I'm going to go ahead on and pull that up for you. And again, thank you all for joining us and especially shout out to our YouTube subscribers, thank you all. We're growing slowly but surely. And thank you for your just support. And also our old school listeners on our listening platform, especially our ones that are I hearts. And you can see it scrolling at the bottom. Itunes. So thank you all so much for just hanging in there with us. We really appreciate you guys so much. So, yes. Georgia, waiting to exhale. And Georgia, what do you want to. I don't know where you want to begin at. Like, what do you want to begin at? [00:01:49] Speaker B: Well, you know, I think that there are so many universal themes in this movie that even though I'm not black, I felt that I really identified with so many of the issues in this movie. And I think it really taps into something when this movie. You're not black. [00:02:06] Speaker A: Wait a minute. I'm not black. [00:02:09] Speaker B: Girl, I am. [00:02:13] Speaker A: Keep talking, Georgia, ignore that foolishly. Go ahead. Okay. [00:02:18] Speaker B: Well, when this movie opens, Avatar is lying to me. [00:02:22] Speaker A: You present a whole different person. What's going on? Is Ableton. Go ahead, girl. You're able to. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. [00:02:29] Speaker B: Well, you know, this movie was number one in the country when it opened. And my research tells me, and I can just picture this, but this is. Was kind of an interactive experience. I understand. This is what I hear for a lot of black women. They were talking to this screen. [00:02:51] Speaker A: Did you find any footage of that? Well, you know, that's dub. People didn't have camera phones. I'm so dumb. Yeah, but people didn't have all that back then, so dag nab it. [00:02:59] Speaker B: No, I didn't. But I could just picture that. But, you know, I had. I'm gonna digress just for a second here. I went with a friend of mine to a theater, and we wanted to see a scary movie together. And she was black, and this was a theater, and the audience was pretty much all black. And let me tell you, it was a hoot because everybody was like. They'd say, oh, don't go in there. Don't go. Don't go in there. [00:03:26] Speaker A: I told you not to go in there. [00:03:28] Speaker B: It was hilarious. It was so much fun. And that was the first time I had been in a majority black audience watching a movie. And I just. It was hilarious. [00:03:41] Speaker A: Yeah, we tend to do that. We tend to talk back to the screen. I don't do that. But I will say one time I did do it. You know what I do? I laugh when nobody else is laughing. Something that's supposed to be not funny. You know what I mean? What I could think of where I laughed out loud. It was something recently, too. But, like. Anyway, this is off subject, but I laugh out loud, like, in something that's not supposed to be funny. Oh, I'm cracking up. But I don't talk back to the screen. I don't know, but yeah. Yes. So you've had a black quote unquote experience that I have never had. I don't think, like, yeah, I've never had that experience. Even, like, a quote unquote unquote black movie. Like, people are laughing and tripping out, but I've never heard. Well, you know, I don't look at scary movies, so maybe it's during scary movies. Okay, I learned something today. So you see, you are black. You have more black experiences than I am. Oh, man. [00:04:51] Speaker B: Oh, it was fun, I gotta tell you. Anyway, so to get back into the movie, I thought that this movie, in many ways, reminded me of sex in the City or, oh, there's another movie that this reminds me of. I'm trying to think of it real quick. But anyway, I thought that this was done at a time where black women were unrepresented in film. And so I was really thrilled to see this powerhouse of black female stars in this movie. And they were amazing. And they portray. And I'm gonna get into the plot just a little bit of. They portray these four attractive, very intelligent, very successful best friends. And the thing that they all had in common this movie, though, was they felt incomplete, that they didn't have a man in their lives, and they either married or they dated. Losers. This is Rabbi. And then they wondered why they weren't happy. [00:05:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Say that again, Georgia, because we had a disruption. Say that again. I'm sorry. [00:06:04] Speaker B: So you have these four very intelligent, successful, attractive women and they are all best friends, but they have this one thing in common besides that they feel incomplete because they don't have a man in their lives and they either date or they marry losers. But then they're also wondering why they're not happy. And that's just very obvious to anybody. You know, it's like that's why you're so unhappy. Look at these men that you're with. But anyway, all the, all the characters in the movie, they start to learn. They pick up and they learn from it, yet from each other. They support each other. And so they learn that you can't depend on another person for validation. And so you see this arc where they progress and it's beautifully done that way. I have to say, I thought Angela Bassett, her performance, she is mesmerizing to me. She is just amazing. And she's had such staying power in her career. And you can see why when you see this movie. [00:07:11] Speaker A: Well, let's take a look at the trailer. I'm going to present that in a second because, all right. I do want everybody to, if you haven't seen it, it is streaming like everything else. So let's take a look at the trailer and let's go for it. Allegedly, we don't look at it. Savannah Bernardine, Robin, Gloria, four friends determined to face reality. The one man I love is Mary and got a kid. You tell her baby girl that her daddy loves her to find the perfect love. [00:08:00] Speaker B: Michael is not pretty, but he's available. [00:08:02] Speaker A: You get the best loving in the world. When a man is begging, oh, I. [00:08:08] Speaker B: To take control of the, I'm leaving you for her. [00:08:12] Speaker A: You wait a minute. I give you eleven years of my life and you're telling me you're leaving. [00:08:16] Speaker B: Me for another woman? [00:08:19] Speaker A: And to make dreams come true, would you like to have dinner with us tonight? There's just leftovers. Collard greens, some cornbread, some candied yams, a little potato salad, fried chicken, peach cobbler, fruit, slices of ham. Don't have no business eating it myself as I am. I like that. I like a woman with a little meat on her bones, you know? [00:08:39] Speaker B: Ooh, give me some. 20th Century Fox proudly presents but I. [00:08:44] Speaker A: Have to admit, I haven't seen anything as splendid as you since I've been here. [00:08:49] Speaker B: Okay, hold on now. Hold on. [00:08:52] Speaker A: You don't have to give me that look. Whitney Houston I know if I left right now, it would be the wrong time, so we're gonna have to wait a little bit longer than I. [00:09:02] Speaker B: You see, the more I think about. [00:09:03] Speaker A: It, the more I look at you. You look like the scum of the earth, Angela Bassett. I need somebody to hold me, even if it is a damn lie. Leela. Rashawn. Does he think he just did something here? I could have had a v eight and Loretta divine. Oh, God, I hope he's not watching me walk away. All right. He's watching. In a story of the challenges that make us stronger. [00:09:34] Speaker B: Always thought if I gave him what. [00:09:36] Speaker A: He needed, he'd give me what I needed. You know, some of us are still. [00:09:41] Speaker B: On that dream trip, girl. And the friends that get us through it all? [00:09:45] Speaker A: If you're searching for? I'll place you now I'm familiar? Face somewhere to go? You should look inside yourself? You're halfway through, and I muted. Cause we probably get copyright struck or something like that, but. Because of the music. But, um, yeah, so you can kind of see this thing gets out the way. The. That soundtrack. I'll talk about that in a minute, but let's go back, and let's just go analyze. So, whilst I'm going back, Georgia, what do you think? Go finish your thought, and I'll tell you why I want to go back. Go ahead. [00:10:32] Speaker B: Well, you know, I really, in many ways, appreciated the way this was done, because this. You don't normally see this in a movie where you have this very rich, very spicy, very ribald black female humor. And at times, it was absolutely hilarious. I mean, it was bold. It could get raunchy at times, but it's kind of like upside your head real, which is what I liked. And they didn't try to sanitize it that much. But I felt bad for these women because at times, I felt like they were being treated as just disposable commodities by the men. They tell them anything, you know, to, like, you know, become, you know, their, you know, boyfriend or their lover, and then they don't have anything to say to them afterwards. And it made me feel such pain, because I thought, how many women have gone through something like this? And it hurt, but I thought, so which women specifically? [00:11:43] Speaker A: Specifically, that you felt the most, that had the most abuse, you know, emotional abuse, or however you want to put it? Oh. Were they all pathetic? [00:11:59] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. Oh, gosh. Oh, Mandy. I don't know. I kind of felt bad for Robin. I mean, I think I most closely align with Angela bass character. [00:12:17] Speaker A: Okay. [00:12:18] Speaker B: Actually, because that tapped into something that I myself have been through. You know, somebody who cheats on me. [00:12:25] Speaker A: You mean white women have problems and have abusive men and can have abusive men in their lives. You are not telling the truth, white woman. How dare you steal the black woman's burden? I don't believe it. [00:12:41] Speaker B: Oh, well, you know, I have a question about this movie that I know it was painful for Angela Bass character that her husband was leaving her for a white woman, but I wondered, would it have been just as painful if he had left her for another black woman? And then I thought, well, maybe that ratcheted up the pain even more. But I was. But I don't know. [00:13:06] Speaker A: He asked her that in the beginning. He asked her that, would you rather, you know, if people look at it and recall, he asked her that, would you have rather had been a black woman? And she didn't really have any remote for that. I mean. Well, you know what I mean. It just. It was all. Well, go ahead. Finish your thought. [00:13:25] Speaker B: Well, then she has this very snappy comeback. Well, yeah, but if you'd been a black man. [00:13:31] Speaker A: Answer the question, lady. [00:13:34] Speaker B: Yeah, so I really. That's a question that I had that I wondered throughout this movie if that really intensified the pain for her. [00:13:44] Speaker A: That's what it seemed like. I don't know. That's what it seemed like, I think. Cause she kept saying it and bringing it up. But, I mean, to me, you know, when you gone through a divorce, I don't think it matters to me. [00:14:00] Speaker B: That's how I feel. It doesn't matter. I mean, when you're cheated on and you're dumped. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't. It could have been for another man. It still hurt. [00:14:12] Speaker A: Yeah, it hurts. I mean, I just don't. You know, I pray to God it never happens to me, obviously, but, yeah. So go ahead on and tell me about on the line of what else you thought about the characters in this movie or whatever else you want to speak on. I'm sorry. [00:14:31] Speaker B: Oh, sure. Well, you know, I. I'm gonna start with Angela Bass's character, because I felt like she was. It was so painful for her on another level, because she had sacrificed who she was to help this man and only to learn, you know, he ain't worth it. You know, she wanted. She put off all of her hopes and dreams and desires, put them on hold to help build him to where he became a successful man. And then when he gets to that pinnacle and dumps her, and I don't think I would have reacted and said but it is funny what she does. And that whole scene where she does something with his personal property, I'm not gonna really spoil that for anybody. But that was all improvised. There was no dialogue, and I thought she was amazing in it. What? [00:15:22] Speaker A: That was all improvised? Wowzer. Yeah. [00:15:25] Speaker B: Yes. [00:15:26] Speaker A: We already know if Angela Bassett is, like, one of the best actresses around, so. Yeah. [00:15:32] Speaker B: Cause she's so real, right? [00:15:34] Speaker A: Yes, she is. She's so real. I don't care if it's in Black Panthere or whatever. Tina Turner. That's what made her a star. It doesn't matter. She's so, so convincing. [00:15:45] Speaker B: Well, that wouldn't have been my style to do something to my ex's stuff, even though. So I felt good that she was doing it for me. [00:15:54] Speaker A: Girl, that scene, that just was so cathartic for a lot of women who saw it, which is. I'm sure I'm sharing it. I don't care if y'all. Yes, y'all should have saw the movie by now. But anyway, so this is the scene where she's burning the trash. We'll just leave it like that. She's taking out. [00:16:13] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:16:13] Speaker A: She's just disposing of the trash. [00:16:17] Speaker B: Oh, I was rooting for her. I mean, I know that you shouldn't act in a way that's just so. But I think it. In a way. I know it sounds crazy, but I think that for her, I. That was a healing kind of a thing to do, is show I'm done with him. I'm moving on. This is my way of saying, you hurt me, I'm going to hurt you. I don't recommend people do this. Please. I don't recommend, but I just felt for this character, it was right for her. [00:16:46] Speaker A: So, wait, tell us about each character, because I don't think we did that. So just give us a brief synopsis of each character. I don't know. We really delved into that. [00:16:54] Speaker B: Oh, sure. Okay, so. Okay, I think I've covered Angela bass character. She's a woman who has been married to this man, has helped him become successful, and she has two children with him, and she's put her hopes and dreams of becoming a caterer on hold to help him out. And then we also have. Yes, there she is right there. And I guess next we will go to the Robin character, who's just to her. Right. Robin is a very intelligent woman, but she has this. She goes for good looking men, and they unavailable. You know, the guy that she falls in love with is a married Mandev, and she goes for unavailable men, and she just. [00:17:58] Speaker A: Yeah. And the word says, scraping the bottom of the barrel, you know? [00:18:03] Speaker B: Oh, God, yeah. Oh, yeah. [00:18:06] Speaker A: Professional and beautiful. You would think she would have. She could have anybody she wants, but the men she picks, and that's so real. That is very realistic. [00:18:16] Speaker B: Yeah. She goes for the good looking guy. And there's one time that she went with the guy who wasn't even particularly good looking, just because it was better for her to have, like, a man than no man at all. [00:18:30] Speaker A: Yeah, right. And what did you think about her with him, how that ultimately ended? What did you think about her, that selection, that choice? [00:18:42] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. She just kept going for men that were worse and worse and worse, I thought. But at the very end, I liked the way her character came around and said, you know, I'm better off. It's better to be by yourself than to be with somebody who is, you know, that guy, he was like, you know, into dope and dealing and all that. And then, plus, he kept going back to his wife. You know, they would always say they would leave their wife for the women, and they didn't do it. So she wised up. [00:19:17] Speaker A: Okay. And then our last character. Well, what are last two characters? I'm sorry. [00:19:22] Speaker B: Yeah, last two characters. Well, then there's Whitney Houston's character, and she did the same thing that Robin was doing. She would go with married men who are unavailable and poke right there. What. [00:19:36] Speaker A: What happened to the girl code? What happened to girl power, where sisters? I was. What? We don't do that to each other, girl. Okay, go ahead, George. I digress. [00:19:51] Speaker B: You know, and then she had this relationship with her mother, and her mother would purposely try and promote this married man. She knew the man was married, and she wanted her daughter to be with this man. And I thought, how just so wrong of this mother to. To put this on her daughter like that. And so, and so she and Robin had the same thing going on, you know? You know, fooling around with married men, and then they would promise that they would leave the woman and never did. Never did. [00:20:26] Speaker A: Right. [00:20:26] Speaker B: So. Yeah. And then the last we have Gloria and guys. [00:20:34] Speaker A: So Leela Roshan played Robin. Loretta Devine, Broadway royalty, stage royalty, tv and movies as well. Loretta Devine and Mister Gregory Hines. Go ahead. [00:20:47] Speaker B: Yes. I thought her character was very interesting, and she, you know, even though she knew that she was not as svelte and didn't have the same kind of ideal figure, I thought she was absolutely beautiful. [00:21:04] Speaker A: Loretta and. Loretta Devine, that's her. I don't know if she gained weight for this role or whatever, but. So she's in the original dream girls. And I'll pull up that picture that starred her, Cheryl Lee Ralph and the other young lady. I'm sorry, I can't remember her name, but I'll pull it up. But, girl, Loretta Devine, you can see she had a figure, but she was a brick house, honey. So I'll find that picture. But, yeah, go ahead on with her. [00:21:27] Speaker B: Well, I really felt for her character and that she's trying to raise a son alone, but she's put so much onto the son. She's wanted him to be like, in a way, an inappropriate thing where she's wanted her son to almost be like her best friend. And it takes Gregory Hines to say, you need to individuate. You need to pull back and let him be the man that he is. He's 17 years old, can make his choices, live his life. Her husband had left her. Her husband disclosed that he was gay. And I'm sure, you know, I mean, that was another blow to her. [00:22:05] Speaker A: But played by the great Gus Frank himself, y'all, Giancarlo esposito. Sorry to interrupt you. Girl almost fell out of my chair. I was like, oh, my gosh, it's Giancarlo. Giancarlo Esposito is. I'm so glad this man is finally getting his props because he's been around forever since Spike Lee do the right thing and school days, and you forget this man's library of work, catalog of work must be vast. So, yes, Giancarlo plays her ex husband, like Georgia, say, who comes out as gay and all this stuff. So, yeah, ghost friend, everybody. Too funny. Okay, so I found. [00:22:53] Speaker B: All right, well, you know, I think that when I think about how black men must have reacted to this movie, they were probably thinking, that doesn't make us look all that good. But, you know, there's two men in that movie, though, that I thought really shined. And they were great. They were very respectful, empathetic, and saw, you know, the personalities and the strong character that these women had. So I think the movie was redeemed by those two men in the movie where the rest of them were, oh, gosh, are awful. [00:23:26] Speaker A: Okay, so what, you're looking at the screen, and I'm parking right there, because I do want to go back to that. So here is Loretta Devine. Girl, I told you. [00:23:33] Speaker B: Look at her. [00:23:34] Speaker A: Can I make that bigger? Yeah, let me make it. So, yeah, I don't know, girl. I told she was. Well, she still is beautiful, but. [00:23:43] Speaker B: Oh, she's beautiful. [00:23:44] Speaker A: But girl. Yes, she. Let me see. Zoom in. I got a look. How beautiful. And I told you so. I don't know if she gained weight. And like I said, it's Shirley Ralph. And I'm sorry, I don't know the other lady's name. If you know it, please put in the comments. Don't forget to subscribe. Share and like. Yeah, gorgeous. So before Beyonce and Nikon, only Rose and Jennifer Hudson. These, these were the original dream girls. And they killed it on Broadway, honey. They were the queens. Okay, all right. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Georgia. So you were saying the men, so which two men were those guys who you thought redeemed the maleness and manhood in the movie? [00:24:24] Speaker B: It was the one that Angela Bassett was with one evening. She had actually met him in the bar. He spent the evening with her. And he was married to a woman who was dying of breast cancer. Yeah, he was married to a white woman. [00:24:37] Speaker A: But anyway, we had Wesley Snipes played that guy. [00:24:41] Speaker B: I can't remember the name of the guy. That's it. Wesley Snipes. [00:24:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:47] Speaker B: I thought he was so. I'd never seen him act in a role that was just so. I just loved the character. He was so likable. And he wrote her a letter afterwards. Beautiful sentiment that he truly cared about her. Wow. I'm just really, just really. Wesley snipes blew me away. And Gregory Hines, I thought he was delightful. Wish that they would have given him more time in the movie because I would have liked to see him a little bit more. I like Gregory Hines so much. And of course, I think of Gregory Hines with his phenomenal dancing skills. [00:25:24] Speaker A: Yes. Just a king of dance. Rip Gregory Hines. Yes. And so, yeah, this is the scene where, and I love, what I loved about this movie, and I'm just saying this before I let you go on, is that it wasn't a totally adversarial relationship like it is now in movies with men and women. Women weren't trying to be men. The men, good, bad and ugly. They were still men. And I like how Gloria, Loretta Devine's character, girl, she shot her shot and what I mean, for the people, not the cool kids, she went up and she approached him. She wasn't aggressive or ignorant or disrespectful. And her voice is just wonderful. Those of us who sing, she has the lightest little voice. She could be cursing you out, and you're just gonna smile. And she has a beautiful smile. And so she went up to that man, and she wasn't originally trying to shoot her shot. She was just trying to get some information. But when she read that menu of food, girl, my mouth started watering, and I wasn't even hungry. [00:26:37] Speaker B: I was like, oh, yeah, I know. Oh, my gosh. It sounded good. [00:26:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:43] Speaker B: Oh, I think it's true. The way to a man's heart is through his stomach. But, you know. [00:26:49] Speaker A: Yes, ma'am. [00:26:50] Speaker B: I just think that. Yeah, I think that's half of it right there. You feed a man well, they'll follow you around. [00:26:58] Speaker A: That's certainly the way to get your foot in the door. That's now what you do after that means a lot to. But I totally agree with that girl. Yeah, go ahead. What else you got for us? [00:27:09] Speaker B: Well, okay, I wrote this down because I made this observation and I thought, our heroines here are having extremely bad sex with selfish men. But why do these women expect good sex from men they don't even like? [00:27:24] Speaker A: Girl, that's profound. That's profound. But now, does that, your statement, does that fit with Robin, Leela Rashawn's? Because Leon. That's Leon, for those of you don't know, he's another great actor. Just, he played in the, I about, say, the five heartburns. That's not true. And the temptations by epic. There's several years ago, maybe a little bit before this or around this time with waiting exhale. Because waiting exhale was 1995. But anyway, Leon is. He was in like a prayer video and blasphemy. Jesus. But anyway, so does that statement stand? Because maybe you're right, because she, Robin was in love, for whatever reason, with Leon's. And, you know, he did have. They had great sex. What about, you know, you're right, because I'm going back because. So Dennis Haysbert, y'all. Oh, let me see. We got a picture of him, girl. Okay, so, George, I'm just sidebarring. Me and my girlfriend in college, we were in love with Wesley Snipes, and we were in, well, she was more in love with Dennis Haysbrook. So I'm going to pull this picture up in a second. But. So I guess you're right, because they were having great sex with. And she didn't know, talking about Savannah, Whitney Houston. So once she saw how he was just. It wasn't gonna happen with her and how he was playing her, what did. The sex stopped. So you're right, Georgia. Say that again. That was very profound. I think you hit the nail on the head. [00:29:04] Speaker B: They're having extremely bad sex with selfish men. And why do these women expect good sex from men they don't like? [00:29:14] Speaker A: Yeah, like I said, I'm trying to go back. [00:29:17] Speaker B: I mean, because that's how we women are. We have to be. The sex is the best. When you are totally in love with somebody and when you don't even like them, you can't expect sex to be great. [00:29:32] Speaker A: I agree. [00:29:33] Speaker B: We're wired differently than men are. [00:29:35] Speaker A: Yes. And girl, don't you say that, honey. First of all, what is a woman? And second of all, don't you say that we can do what men do. And apparently there's no difference between the sexes anymore. So what you talking about, Willis? [00:29:55] Speaker B: I know that's controversial nowadays to say that, isn't it? [00:29:59] Speaker A: Right, right. But all kidding aside. No, what you're saying, because she's not saying you can't have sex. She's just saying it's better when you love somebody, even if a man is not great in bed and take the kids out the room. Now you can grow. Because I remember me and my mother talking about this when she was giving me one of several uncomfortable sex talks. But I'm glad she did it in the stages of my development. And she said, you can learn together and grow sexually. And, you know, I don't have any reason to doubt that, you know, without putting my business in the street. I'm just saying. I agree. I'll leave it like that. I agree. Love, what's the Bible say? Love covers a multitude of sins and apparently bad sex as well. [00:30:52] Speaker B: I couldn't agree with you more on that. As far as I'm concerned, that's 100% true. [00:30:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. What else you got for us? [00:31:02] Speaker B: Well, let's see. Well, you know, a lot of people, if you're a Whitney Houston fan, and I think she brought a lot of star power to this movie, but during the filming, it was temporarily halted for several, well, actually for seven days. Now, Whitney Houston was 32 when she made this movie, but she had a cocaine overdose. And I. And so they had, yes, so they, and she at this point had three year old little Bobbi Christina Brown. And she, yes, she overdosed during the filming of the movie. And they had to stop it for seven days. And it made me really sad to think about that because to me, Whitney Houston has done the most powerful, beautiful, perfect rendition of the national anthem that I have ever heard, and nobody will ever, ever do it as well as she does. And then just so many things about Whitney Houston that were really amazing and to have such talent. But, you know, it just also to fall in with a man, you know, the wrong kind of man. And this is real life. You know, you don't see it on the screen in the same way. But I would watch her and think, such beauty and such talented and, you know. But, yes, that did happen during the filming of this movie. [00:32:30] Speaker A: And let me just say this. For those of you that you saw, I put that shady thing up there. Tea time. Cause, Georgia, you brought the tea. I did not know that. Cause the general public did not know about Whitney's issues till maybe about five or four years later. Because there was a. Oh, was it even that long? But not too long after this came out because she did this, um, you know, the tabloids, they couldn't hold it back at paparazzi. Then she came out with this. Well, Bobby Brown was supposed to just have this reality show. So this is the height of reality shows called being Bobby Brown. I'll try to find. Find it in a second. And it was just supposed to be about him. But, uh, so, yeah, this had to be because you said the little girl was three, so this. She was, like, maybe about six or seven. So about four years after that at the waiting exhale. And Wendy Houston was on. And, man, she was a hot mess. So all that beauty and all that class that was given to us, packaged and given to us totally just fell apart when you saw being Bobby Brown. I'll see if I can, um. I'll find it. But. Wow. Wow, Georgia girl, you got the tea. [00:33:45] Speaker B: Well, you know, she sadly, she left us in February of 2012. But, you know, because of the drug use, you know, it really. She lost her teeth. And so you can see how it has altered her looks. If you look at later pictures of her, you can see how she does look different. And so I just thought the music and the singing, I loved. Oh, my gosh, the music in this movie. Ah, the soundtrack featuring all these black female singers. Just amazing. [00:34:19] Speaker A: Yes, yes. Just. Just great. And I was trying to find the image of being Bobbi Brown, but I don't have it. But, yeah, she looked absolutely hot ass mess. So just put it. Put it bluntly. Let's see if we can find it here. Okay? Yeah. And for those of you who think we. Oh, you're Whitney. You're talking. I mean, look, it is what it is. She was not supposed to Bobby Brown on the damn reality show, okay? And so she put it out there for whatever reason. So I just want to show y'all and Georgia whilst I'm pulling up. If there's anything you want to say, go ahead on and do it because I want you to see she looks. This is she, and this is a nice picture. Okay. And yes, it was. It was. They should have pulled this because when they, she started, it was just crackish. Just crackish ways. I remember she did that interview with crack is whack with Diane Sawyer and all that. And that's another thing. Like, they couldn't hide it anymore. It was just horrible. Like, here she looks, girl, she's like Bobby Brown, mama. Okay. And so I, you know, I kind of. I'm kind of pushed back a little bit about what you were saying about Bobby Brown. You know, a bad man Bobby Brown. Till this day, Bobby Brown never hid who he was from anybody. And so I remember. Do you remember when they announced they got married or getting married? Do you remember that? [00:36:07] Speaker B: I think so, yeah. [00:36:09] Speaker A: Girl. Did you have any reaction to it or you remember or what I thought? [00:36:15] Speaker B: Oh, man. Like, what do you see in this guy, right? [00:36:22] Speaker A: You and the whole rest of the. [00:36:23] Speaker B: World, what do you see in him, right? [00:36:26] Speaker A: They. [00:36:29] Speaker B: Need this guy. [00:36:30] Speaker A: Yes. Everyone thought the same freaking thing. But when it all was said and done, when it came out, and I'm not gonna rehash, they got so many channels that talks about that and stuff online. Just go look it up. But everybody knew. So if we all knew, what are you doing with Bobby Brown? Well, you know, you play, what's the fun saying and play stupid games. You get stupid prizes and so. But Whitney, everybody knows. Bobbi Brown did not get Whitney Houston addicted. She was already addicted by someone in her family, according to people very close to her. And this has been verified. So you gravitate to what you like. And Bobby Brown, he liked the party, but he never fooled anybody. Anyway, girl, I just wanted to add some more to your teeth. I just wanted to put a little bit more sugar in your teeth for you. [00:37:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Unfortunately, she had been exposed to drugs ever since the age of ten and she had a brother who also was into it. So, yeah, she had been around it quite a bit. To Whitney's credit, though, she went through rehab about two, maybe three times, trying really to get off of it. So this was a real struggle for her to. [00:37:46] Speaker A: So how did that affect the production? Obviously, they got it done. This was, by the way, guys, this was directed by the great Forest Whitaker. The same Forrest Whitaker, the Oscar winning, Oscar winning actor Forest Whitaker. We know him from so many different movies. I think this was his first movie. I don't know if it's his last, but, yeah. Mm hmm. [00:38:05] Speaker B: He did. He went on to direct some other movies. In fact, about 20 some odd years later, he and Angela Bassett did Black Panther together. Oh, yeah. [00:38:16] Speaker A: So I think he didn't die. Oh, you talking about. Yeah, he was in it, right? Yeah, he was in it, right? [00:38:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:23] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know if he directed anything else you say he did. [00:38:27] Speaker B: I don't. I don't know. [00:38:28] Speaker A: Yeah, he was. He was in that. Let's go back to the. To the soundtrack, because I did pull that up, and according to wikipedia, because that everybody who was anybody and that this soundtrack was just blasted everywhere. So, of course, you heard this was produced by Babyface. And of course it had Patti Labelle. We heard her read the Mary J. Blige Brandi TLC shock of my girl, Faith Evans. And like I said, mary J. Blige and just so many others. And it spawned two number one hits in a US billboard Hot 100, exhale the shoop shoop song. I couldn't stand it. Let it flow. I didn't like that. I like the brand. It's sitting up in my room and not gonna cry. Let it flow. So all it was. So it just. The soundtrack was a monster. So shout out to Babyface. He did that. And Babyface is up. Famous music producers, for those of you who don't know. Go look him up like I did. So, Georgia, what else can we say about this movie? [00:39:32] Speaker B: I think if you're in a certain mood and if you've been through a bad breakup, get yourself a gallon of rocky road ice cream and watch this movie, and you'll feel like you're with your girlfriends and you're dishing about how lousy men are. And I think you think that it's just a very. You'll feel such empathy, and it'll be cathartic. And so that's the way I look at this movie. It's perfect if you're going through a bad breakup, and then you know that there is. There can be a happy ending, because that's what I. The thing I like about this movie is that it shows you that you yourself can change your circumstances and you can go on and be happy. [00:40:22] Speaker A: You thought this movie had a happy ending? [00:40:25] Speaker B: I did, yes. [00:40:27] Speaker A: Now, tell me why you thought. What was the happy ending? Tell me. [00:40:31] Speaker B: Well, okay, let's start with Angela Bassett, because I think she. You could see the healing process take place. She got. She took her husband to the cleaners. [00:40:45] Speaker A: Rightfully so. [00:40:47] Speaker B: Yes. And. But she. She had, like, a male best friend towards the end of the movie who gave her quite a bit of validation and respect. And then with Leela Roshan's character. Yes, she was pregnant, but she decided she was going to have that baby. She said at the beginning of the movie she wanted two, maybe three kids. And she was going to have that baby on her own, without. And she got rid of that sorry, sorry boyfriend, hers. [00:41:21] Speaker A: Well, now go backwards back to Wendelle. I think his name. Wendell Corey. And I should know that another 504 boy, 504 actor, Wendell Corey, I think his name. We know him from the wire. And just so many great movies and television suits and what have you. Excellent actor who played Mike, the heavyset dude who Leela Roshan was using as a slump buster. What are you. Why didn't that work? Because that was a guy who seemingly was what she wanted. Right? Why didn't that. What the hell? Why didn't she go out with him? Why? Why? Cause he said, whatever you want. Hey, I'm here to make it happen. I was yelling simp. But why do you think that didn't work out? [00:42:08] Speaker B: I think she recognized the guy for who he was. He wouldn't leave his wife. [00:42:12] Speaker A: No, no, no, the heaven said dude. No, the heaven said do with the glasses in the beginning. [00:42:17] Speaker B: Oh, the heavyset guy. Oh, him. Yeah. Because even though he, I think, was probably nice, although obviously he wasn't a great lover, but he was not. She just didn't feel like love for him. [00:42:35] Speaker A: She just. [00:42:36] Speaker B: She just. It wasn't there. Just wasn't with him. And. Yeah. So. But I felt like her character, she became strong and independent. [00:42:48] Speaker A: Pierce, I'm sorry. So he played Mike. Here we go. Areas. Okay, go ahead. [00:42:55] Speaker B: Um. So, yeah, I really respected her character for the choice that she made and that she was moving on. [00:43:01] Speaker A: And see, I case, let's. I gotta park it right there. This Mandev. No, he did not have the package. But this cat, first of all, they work together. My own model. You never crap where you eat. Okay? [00:43:17] Speaker B: Right. [00:43:17] Speaker A: Never. But this dude said he was down with her pg with her program. [00:43:26] Speaker B: Yes. [00:43:26] Speaker A: So look how the movie was very realistic. I had a few issues with it, but that was. It was very realistic. So to me, that lends credence to shout out to the manosphere. Not all of it, because some of it is crazy. But to my man, Kevin Samuels, rip the Godfather. Women say they know what they want. They don't know what the hell they want. This guy. And she could have worked with him. You could lose weight. Not true. Though, you can't, the man, fully grown man, can't grow taller because we saw her type. But this guy was a professional. He was agreeing. He was checking the boxes. And let me just shout out to the godfather right here, and some people hate this man, but this man was on a mission to really get women, especially black women, married. So go check out his channel, the godfather, right here, mister Kevin Samuels. Ks. Wonderful, wonderful. See this? And again, if you're, if you are easily triggered, if you are not feminazi and you don't know how to listen and you don't like, oh, I don't like his delivery, no matter what he's. How true what he's saying. So I'm showing you these titles, but just sit there and listen to, and go, don't look at one video, look at a bunch of them. Like I said, a manosphere. Some of it is, you know, is wild. And I don't like to throw away toxic. Some of us just doing it to be doing it. Just being assholes. To be assholes. But Kevin Samuel was not like that. So if you triggered by it says, over 40, dating sucks for modern women, and it's getting worse. 36 year old scribble now wants to be a luxury housewife. See, you just can't just turn off stuff like that. Women, you can't be for the streets, because all these women except Gloria and Bernadeen were for the streets. Robin was for the streets, meaning that they're out there going with married men. And when a man who presents himself as a man who he's supposed to be the package, you say, nah, pound sand. So, like, again, a lot of men, women confuse men with this. Georgia, you know, we have an open society here. You're free to disagree. He's. She could have got with Mike if she would have grown up. First of all, she didn't deserve Mike. So I'm glad that did not work out. And then you saw when they were in the club, that heifer gonna get mad. Cause he brought somebody else. And she was a bad, bad, just like her, if not badder. So, you know, I didn't think this had no happen in this year, baby mama. Like I said, this movie was unfortunately very realistic. Some of it was a little silly and played into a lot of tropes about black men and stereotypes and the war between black men and black women and men and women. You know. Cause like I said, black people don't have the monopoly on bad relationships. I mean, that's just, that's just western dating nowadays, western relationships. But I thought it ended on a horrible note. Yeah, Angela Bassett got paid, but she should have checked her son when her son disrespected his father. I don't care how mad you are at that man. She said, hold up, son. Your father is speaking to you. When he was getting out the car, do you know the scene I'm talking about? When he was dropping him off, I thought that was disgusting. That is still your father, and don't you dare do that. And so she was already creating parental alienation between. Because these kids are innocent. So I just. So had there been a sequel, girl, them churn would have been wilding out. Angela Bassett. Wesley snipes might have came over there, but, you know, he'd have been grieving too hard for his dying white, white girl. I didn't see where it had no happy ending. What's her name was a baby mama. So, I mean, yeah, true enough, you didn't kill a baby or whatever, but at the same time, it's not a physical death, but children need both parents. And, ma'am, you show that you have poor decision making skills. So I don't know what's gonna happen. That baby, God forbid, is a boy. He gonna be surrounded by more women. Where are the men? So, to me, the only one who had a quote unquote happy ending was Gloria. But they were kind of showing you that Gloria had the better sense out of all of them. Did you get that vibe like Gloria had? [00:47:57] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely. Gloria was absolutely, yes. She was sleeping around and wasn't actively searching for a man. But I was so glad that she found somebody who recognized the beautiful person she was, her lovely spirit, and told her he loved her. And that, to me, was the most gratifying one of all. I thought Whitney Houston's relationship ended the way it should. She told the married guy, she called him out for what he was, and then her relationship with her mother started to improve. [00:48:30] Speaker A: Right? And I'm glad, you know, so I saw this. I was like a 2020 year old or something like that. And so 20 year old Moya. I was just so happy because I read the book, and I'm gonna pull up the author, Tara Macmillan. Let's see. We can. We can pull it up. Let's take a look at her. Here's Terry McMillan. Let me pull it up for you real quick. And I I read her book. She also wrote Stella how Stella got her groove back, which was based on her actual experiences and anybody who knows how that turned out. G. Monetti. So okay, so this is Tara. This is probably the worst picture I could pull up. I don't know why she doing her mouth like that. But anyway, beautiful woman. So, yes, it's 2008, but, yeah, so she wrote the book, and she also co produced the movie as well. But this movie was honest in that showing that these women were not good decision makers. And like I said, with Angela Bassett in a book, this movie was pretty much one of those rare occasions where it was true to the book. And as a person who is married, you know, we only saw this movie from Bernardine's perspective. We had to kind of just infer. Yeah, the husband's perspective. But we all know there's two sides to every story. Adultery is. I'm not pro adultery, obviously, but you can never just take one perspective. Let me just say this in conclusion. Women can no longer get away with, because we have the Internet now and we have men's spaces where they can talk freely and openly. We can have open dialogue. Women can't get a, get away with. Like Kevin Samuel said, the, the mysterification, talking about the color purple with Mister, the original, not the foolishness they just did, but the original one where Danny Glover's character, he. That they did such a job on a black community of painting black men as just beasts, almost inhuman, horrible people in this movie kind of, kind of kept that going a little bit. It did show that, like I said, these women made poor choices. But. So 50 year old Moya, girl almost didn't make, because I hadn't seen this movie since it came out, Georgia come out. So back in the day. So 50 year old Moya, what I'm seeing now, I almost didn't make it to the first few minutes because they always, they started with the stereotype and the strolls. All these, these men ain't ish. And, you know, I don't like that, because if you're gonna do that to men, now we see men, they're giving it back to women, and you can't just blanket a whole race or a whole sex. And so I got through it. But I would say 50 year old Moya, now realizing there's two sides to every story, all men are evil. I never did think that, for the most part. But, you know, really, in conclusion, I think I'm glad we're having this discussion. I didn't look, you know, we never cheat. Well, I don't cheat in. Well, I'm pretty sure you don't either. I try not to look at what other people think of their criticisms. Until I come here. But now I think if we could have a part two of this, we could have. Let's. What happened with that marriage with Bernadeen and the husband? What did the children think? What about son husbands? Because. And I love. It was so honest how Bernard, Gloria said her son became her companion, and she couldn't let him go. And that's another issue that's plaguing probably not only the black community, but I'm black, so, you know, I have an insight. So, you know, there's just a lot of issues that were touched on, but I. You know, they have time to do all that to go deeper, but. So it got a six out of ten on IMDb, I guess, whatever. But now I think it takes a more mature person, hopefully. Let me just say this. Women who looked at it back then versus now. I hope you've matured enough to know that no sex or race or whatever has the monopoly on being a clown or being disrespectful, jealous, selfish, narcissistic. And that's. That's the. That's the real message. And I'm. You know, that was not the goal of this movie, I don't think, but I will give it to. It was. It was honest in how relationships are. So that was very long to say all that, but that was. That's just was something. And like I said, robin really pissed me off because the. You know, bruh, what do you want? You say you want this stability, but, you know, then you got a baby daddy. So now that child, like I said, if he's a boy, he's going to pay for every man who did her dirty. And if she's a girl, she's going to gonna practice witchcraft and turn her against men. So. And that pisses me off, you know? So I'm sorry for that long diatribe, but that was my take on the move. I enjoyed it. I did enjoy it, but I was. I was rolling my eyes a lot, Georgia. [00:53:54] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, for sure. And I was feeling that if I could say that there was a flaw in the way it was done, I thought there was too much stereotyping of black males in relationships, and I thought, no, because there are decent black men out there. My gosh. Even though women may complain that there's not enough decent black men out there, well, there are. That bothered me quite a bit. It was too much male bashing in general. A little bit too much. [00:54:23] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's statistically untrue. And go look at Kevin Samuels and go look up the statistics about single black men and how many there's a. They all gay are in jail. That's not true. You know, and, you know, that's people getting there. Some outright, I ain't gonna say conspiracy, some outright movement to just. Not just black men to destroy manhood. And I'm not down with that at all, because, you know, flip it. Women, we don't want anybody destroying our deal, so don't. Don't destroy their deal. You know, we need each other. We. That's why I said this. The movie was pathetic. Because we all know Savannah, their outcomes, not the movie. Savannah, gonna die alone. Get a dog and die alone. Shout out to Kevin Samuel because she was 33. Girl, look, once you hit that wall. Look, wait. Next, it could be called first one, waiting, exhale, part two, the wall. Waiting, exhaling while she hitting the wall. Whatever you want to put it. Because once you hit a certain age and you're setting your ways, and as women, you know, you and I talked about this before. You're not that young, viable thing anymore. And men are attracted to youth. They want, if they want to procreate, you know, don't get mad with us. Get mad with God. We don't make the rules. And so, you know, when Whitney Houston, Savannah said, when I'm 33 years, when it was sitting down drinking, I'm 33 years old, I still got it. I said, yeah, girl, you got up there gassing hub. No, you don't, ma'am. You're done. That's why you have to sleep with married men or unavailable men. You know, like you said earlier, unavailable men. Because it's just. It's just how it is, Georgia. It's just how it is. Whereas a man in his thirties, like my husband, he gonna get. Go get a chicken in her twenties. You know, if he got his self together, he'll be in his fifties, 67, go get a broad. And her third is her twenties. I don't make the rules, but that's just how it is. So, women, you're never gonna win that game. Never. Are we still alive, Georgia? I know I laid a lot on. You're still with us. [00:56:30] Speaker B: I'm sorry. [00:56:31] Speaker A: Yes. [00:56:32] Speaker B: The last thing that I want to say is, you know, if you notice the fashions that were taking place in the mid nineties. [00:56:38] Speaker A: Yes. [00:56:39] Speaker B: Those women could wear a bustier. Couldn't they, though? [00:56:43] Speaker A: Girl, they. Honey, they was beautiful. I was catching that, though. And, girl, so the Angela Bassett wig, I was like, I got that wig. I had that wiggle. Wore that wig. So much. Let me show you the wig. I'm talking. I wore that wig, girl, until the private. Hers was falling out of it. Girl. When she cut her hair, I wore that wig to death. This wig. Right, girl, I love that wig. Wore to death. Yes. [00:57:12] Speaker B: And beautiful. I thought she looks. I loved her haircut. Those women were really, like, dogging her about her haircut. I thought she looked just gorgeous in that haircut. [00:57:23] Speaker A: She did. She did. I mean, I guess that wig was popular. I don't know, I just. I'm pretty sure it influenced how I want. Let me find that boostiere now. Whitney Houston wig. Look. Put your ears in your arm. Whitney Houston always wore horrible ass wig. I'm sorry. No. Cause it made her look so old. And she was only 32, 33. And this. But she always wore horrible wigs in real life. Like, let me see. She. Oh, yeah, sure. It was almost. It was always two teased or too feathered. And they just could never. And she would never wear, like, a straight wig. So I don't know why she wore that wig. But let me try to find what you were talking about. The busier girl. Yeah, they girl. So this. But you know what? This was at the height of Victoria's secrets powers. When women were really buying lingerie and trying to look good for their man. Okay, let me ask you. [00:58:25] Speaker B: Oh, that's a great observation, moya. Yes, that's what was going on. [00:58:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Look, girl. So Leela Roshan, girl was the it girl. She was, honey. She had it going on. And so people know her from. Since there's so many different movies. Um, Harlem nights, spuds. She was one of the spurs Mackenzies girls. The Wayans brothers. Gorgeous. She was, you know, a model, obviously. But, yeah, look at this. The long girl. She was killing it, nigga. So go look at the movies if you want to see some more. What else can we say about the fashions? Shout out to the women's suits. [00:59:03] Speaker B: And the men's suits were absolutely just gorgeous. [00:59:10] Speaker A: The men were. Look, the men, they were playing assholes. So shout out to McKelty, Williamson or Williams, who played. He was in Forrest Gump and he was, girl, he had me laughing, the crackhead. That man is so underrated as an actor. Gosh, it's just crazy. But, girl, he had me crying like, girl, when he started throwing him oranges at her. Girl was hollering him. I do not condone violence. But it was so silly. And he like, yeah, girl, he acted like he was high for real. Girl was so funny. I was dating. She said, and her and you in the hot ass Arizona summer leather vest wearing girl. Cuz I was like, where he going with that damn hot ass vested girl? Probably must in sweating. Ooh, gross. So here's another wig I had on Whitney Houston. I don't know, something but let me. So this was, I was so into wigs back in the day. This wig was very popular and it's not a bad wig. I just don't like it on her. What do you think? What's your opinion? [01:00:13] Speaker B: No, I don't care for it that much. [01:00:17] Speaker A: It's poodleishe. [01:00:18] Speaker B: It doesn't do anything for her. [01:00:20] Speaker A: It doesn't do, it makes her look older. She looks like she like 45 years old on here. I hate that. I hate that wig. Let me see. Let's find some more fashions. And to me, the person, back to Gloria, I loved her fashions the most. All the jewelry made out of metal and wood and whoever decorated the set, because this was a time of a lot of african and back, you know, kind of renaissance of africanism and such. So you saw a lot of african pieces in the story. And girl, I just want to show this girl Arizona, I forgot how. Just beautiful, Arizona. And so that was a whole new world to me because, you know, we didn't think about, this was rare. This movie was, it was about black people, but it was not set in an urban city, which was just a breath of fresh air. And just in Arizona, of all places. Girl, look, you know, you can't really see anything, but I just thought it was breathtaking. Forest Whitaker did a beautiful job. Oh, yeah, gorgeous, gorgeous. So, yeah, look, all that, girl. So, yes, Georgia, were you dressing like this? Do you remember, like the muted tones and the beads and the sheer. Sheer was in the long skirts. I used to wear those long skirts. [01:01:40] Speaker B: I did, too. [01:01:44] Speaker A: I used to love to wear those because, and girl, I laugh. I said, you don't see a tattoo, you don't see a piercing. These women, yes, they're making horrible choices and, you know, lashing out for rightfully or wrongfully so, but they're still women and they still acknowledged Mendenna, and they did want men they liked. They were not at war with men, even though they were having bad relationships. Do you understand what I'm saying? I do, yeah. So wedding takes hell, everybody. Georgia, is there anything else? Girl, we have talked. I knew it was going to take a long time on this one. [01:02:26] Speaker B: Oh, I did, too. I knew we'd have a lot to throw down on this one, but no, I think that's a wrap for me. [01:02:31] Speaker A: Okay, I just want to show you, it's from the back with Whitney Houston. But did you, do you remember, do you remember this silhouette? The slip dress? Like the long slip dress? Yeah. Girl, I had when I got it from the thrift store and girl, I wore that thing out. Lordy, probably people could see through it. I wore so much. It wasn't a see through dress, but I just wore it to every occasion and I had to body for it back then. So. Yes. Oh, I miss the nineties. [01:03:04] Speaker B: Yeah, me too. [01:03:05] Speaker A: I miss the nineties. Well, guys, it's been a long one. We haven't had quite a long one like this in a while. But let us know what you think. Like, comment, subscribe, and share. You can also always suggest movies. We are more than happy to hear your suggestions. And thank you all so much for tuning in today. For waiting. X hell, go in and streaming on platforms and go and check it out. George, is there anything else you want to say? [01:03:34] Speaker B: Just want to say thank you for listening in. And we are very much interested in what all of you listeners have to say. Any suggestions you have, we appreciate each and every one of you. [01:03:45] Speaker A: Absolutely. I couldn't say it better. So for how Bette Davis saved my life. Life lessons from classic Hollywood. I'm Moyataindeh. [01:03:53] Speaker B: And I'm Georgia. [01:03:54] Speaker A: And I almost forgot. We will not be our next scheduled live broadcast. Broadcast will be a recorded broadcast because I will be on the road. And so our next on the 14 September, we're gonna be doing running maid. So it will be recorded. It won't be live. It'll be running mate, starring Diane Keaton. And so, because I know Georgia brought to my attention there were several running maids I didn't know. And so that will air on the 14th. Not live. It will be a pre recording. But we will see you live again on the 28 September with our great, great friends to the channel and to the show, Norman. And we'll be doing destrides again. We were supposed to do it earlier, but you know, we couldn't do it because I had, we had some scheduling conflicts. So see you. So listen to us. Don't you go anywhere. So listen to us. On the 14th of watches, we will have the video uploaded on the 14 September 01:00 p.m. central Standard Time on Facebook. And then we will see you live again on the 28th 01:00 p.m. central Standard Time live on Facebook. But you can catch all our videos will be uploaded on YouTube and our audio of wedding text, hell and any other of our live recordings or the preceding the proceeding Saturdays. So the audio of this for all our great listeners on our listening podcast on the 7th. This will be uploaded in case you missed it live. So guys, thank you again. We can't wait to be with you live again on the 28th. But again, don't get so go look at running mates and then come and check us out on the 14th and we will see you then. Have a great, great, great time for the rest of your week and we look forward to seeing you soon. Bye.

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